Act 2 - Can't trigger orpheys dialogue in Creche

Hi! I would like to meet the inquisitor withoutbdivulging the weapin but the Captain wont let me see him if I managz to hide it. I let laezel use the zaithisk (she leaves me if i dont let her and rp it feels weird to not have her in the party in tye creche) I managed a wisdow check to let laezel realize the eaithisk intends to kill her but tjere was no lention of orpheys. The (dead) boy told me he found the book on voss' armors. I have had the dialogue about the book with laezel.

But cant trigger to talk about orpheys with anyone in the creche... what can I do?